Home›Open Questions›Is the thirty-five letter painti order attested in the Punjab before the sixteenth century, and if so in what form?Open QuestionsIs the thirty-five letter painti order attested in the Punjab before the sixteenth century, and if so in what form?Citation FormatsGeneral ReferenceGeneral Reference Citation TextDivinity Atlas. "Is the thirty-five letter painti order attested in the Punjab before the sixteenth century, and if so in what form?." Accessed August 30, 2026. https://www.divinityatlas.com/open-questions-index/is-the-thirty-five-letter-painti-order-attested-in-the-punjab-before-the-sixteenth-century-and-if-so-in-what-form.Copy General ReferenceAPA StyleAPA Style Citation TextDivinity Atlas. (n.d.). Is the thirty-five letter painti order attested in the Punjab before the sixteenth century, and if so in what form?. Retrieved August 30, 2026, from https://www.divinityatlas.com/open-questions-index/is-the-thirty-five-letter-painti-order-attested-in-the-punjab-before-the-sixteenth-century-and-if-so-in-what-formCopy APA StyleBibTeXBibTeX Citation Text@misc{divinityatlas-is-the-thirty-five-letter-painti-order-a, author = {Divinity Atlas}, title = {Is the thirty-five letter painti order attested in the Punjab before the sixteenth century, and if so in what form?}, year = {2026}, url = {https://www.divinityatlas.com/open-questions-index/is-the-thirty-five-letter-painti-order-attested-in-the-punjab-before-the-sixteenth-century-and-if-so-in-what-form}, note = {Accessed August 30, 2026} }Copy BibTeXOpen QuestionCross-Tradition ConnectionsSourcesComments (0)Reader Challenges (0 open reader challenges)Open QuestionSikh tradition credits Guru Angad with the script, while historians of Indic writing hold that the letterforms were already in mercantile use in the Landa hands. Both accounts are argued from the same thin evidence, and the atlas records the disagreement rather than settling it. What neither account establishes for this pass is whether the specific ordering of the thirty-five, including the placement of Sassa and Haha ahead of the five series, predates the Gurus or was fixed by them.What would resolve this Dated Landa or proto-Gurmukhi material with an explicit letter sequence, whether a scribal exercise, an account book heading or an inscription, from before the middle of the sixteenth century. A published palaeographic study of the ordering itself, as distinct from the letterforms, would also close it.OpenIndic palaeography and the history of writing in the PunjabPeter T. Daniels and William Bright (eds.), The World's Writing SystemsCross-Tradition ConnectionsQuestion OnGurmukhi, Scripts & Magical Alphabets Well-attested Source The World's Writing SystemsPeter T. Daniels and William Bright (eds.)tier 1SourcesThe World's Writing Systemstier 1Peter T. Daniels and William Bright (eds.), Oxford University Press, 1996View the SourceComments (0)No comments yet. Be the first to share a thought.Sign in to join the discussion.Reader Challenges (0 open reader challenges)No disputes yet. Spotted an error or a better source? Open the first one.Sign in to dispute this or suggest a correction.View At A Past YearThe atlas records no dated fact of its own for this entry, so there is no other year to choose.Show This Year